These two albums demonstrate that whilst New Order's Bernard Sumner wasn't the world's strongest singer he certainly conveyed emotion. Pretenders to the great Mancunians' throne, Section 25 were perhaps a good vocalist short of garnering more votes in the run-up to the English miserablist electronic post-punk elections, for Larry Cassidy's nasal whine did these records few favours most of the time. A shame because much of the instrumental work on offer here compares favourably with New Order's 'Power, Corruption and Lies' era. 'From The Hip' - from 1983 - was their third album; Larry's wife Jenny contributes vocals herself but in truth neither of them can raise this album above the dated electronic fare on offer. 1985's 'Love & Hate' is better because it concentrates more on melodies. The chiming guitars and keyboard wash on 'Crazy Wisdom' is a definite highlight but there's also a brave stab at Eric Satie's 'Gymnopedies' whilst their probable hero Bernard Sumner contributes a remix of 'Bad News Week'.